2nd January 2014 at 3:38 pm #5459
well I have had a day off today so I did some work on my land rover and then felt happy enough to have a look at the z.
It grumbles and splutters but don’t start.
I think having done some other things on it that the points or timing may be at fault.
so took the point cover off, turned bike over on key, no movement of the points. so turned it slowly with a ratchet and the points only open a tiny amount. I mean about a millimetre if that, the opening is almost un-noticeable. an no spark is obvious
so the questions are…
A- should the points have a gap when at the f mark?
B- if not then at what mark?
C- what size gap.
D- how much should they move when working.
E- am I right in thinking the timing is set at the f mark. that’s what I have found out through the internet.
beef2nd January 2014 at 11:40 pm #10363
I am trying to post sections from the manual which I have as a PDF file but can’t work out how to do it!!!!!
Yes the ‘F’ mark is the timing mark and should align with the cast line at the top of the points housing as the points first open.
The points gap is 0.3 to 0.4 mm (11 to 16 thou) but is not that critical as it is when they open that really counts which is governed by the timing. This should be set when the points are at their max opening. IE when the points dog is at the top of the cam lobe.
The timing in my opinion is best set using a bulb and wire. To do this wrap a wire around the body a single filament 12v bulb such as an indicator bulb. Connect the other end of the wire to the spring on the points taking care that it does not short to anything else or restrict the movement of the points. The centre connection then needs to be fixed to earth on the bike engine for example. Remove the plug caps (to prevent accidental firing of the engine) and turn on the ignition.
Using a 17mm spanner or socket rotate the engine ANTICLOCKWISE and you will see the bulb light up when the points open. Rotate the engine again and set the points plate so the bulb first lighte when the ‘F’ mark and timing mark are aligned and tighten up the points plate and recheck adjusting as required.
I hope this answers your problem but if you have any further issues shout up3rd January 2014 at 9:27 am #10411
So the points should be open at the f mark.
and I have the light bulb. Saw it in you tube so that’s the route I went.3rd January 2014 at 12:32 pm #10364
Yes. The bulb should light up as the ‘F’ mark and timing mark align3rd January 2014 at 1:21 pm #10412
Well nothing. Tried the bulb method and nothing.
Tested the coil. Nothing at both ends. Moved a wire all dash lights went out.
I think the answer is a rewire. New coils. Point. Condenser. Battery.3rd January 2014 at 2:23 pm #10365
That does indeed sound like a major wiring connection issue. Can’t you check it through yourself? Maybe its just a connector come out? Have you asked Hoggy?3rd January 2014 at 2:37 pm #10366
I’ve just spoken to Hoggy and he has explained a bit about how it is wired so I think I understand better what your problems could be. I have sent you a Private Message4th February 2014 at 5:26 pm #10413
am off tomorrow and would love to get this bugger running, KK tried ringing a couple of times but no answer.
can you post on here what I need to do…4th February 2014 at 5:42 pm #10367
PM sent mate. Hoggy said he has moved the electric units from under the side panels to under the seat unit and the wires are on full stretch. He said that its prob connectors pulled out. Also you have B1 electrics and an un butchered harness so shouldn’t be too difficult to sort out17th February 2014 at 9:17 am #10414
Still not had time to look at it. Been working and doing my bathroom up because swmbo said I had to finish off after 8 months……17th February 2014 at 2:03 pm #10415
Just thinking about the bike and am sat here wondering do the the wires from the regulator all need to be wired up to something else.
The green wire on mine us not connected because it was wired to the indicators which have come off17th February 2014 at 4:41 pm #10390TangoParticipant
Hell After 8 months I would have disappeared!
My Wife would have a well fed flower bed though!
Yer I think you had better not push that one anymore Beef! LoL
Arrr Well dont Worrie I have enough to keep this lot busy!! 🙂17th February 2014 at 8:00 pm #10416
its done now, just in time for my long week end and my week off in a couple of weeks.
just got to figure the wires now and then get it sorted.
want it back on the road17th February 2014 at 9:52 pm #10391TangoParticipant
You Go Beef!
Have you got your Wire diagrams?17th February 2014 at 10:41 pm #10417
I have got a diagram for it.
It’s not exactly standard so not 100% how accurate the diagram will be…
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